kaapo: Terve taas
kaapo: Koistinen - Nyberg reclaimed the lead after round 13
kaapo: And are on top also after round 14 http://bridgefinland.com/sm/pari09/results.php
kaapo: North is Raimo Honkavuori and South Ranan Rimon, both from the B-19 club from Hämeenlinna
kaapo: Transportations were difficult but with !CK doubleton there will be plenty of tricks
kaapo: Lots of tricks here now that the !HK is right
kaapo: The grand is unbiddable playing RKCB, but perhaps North might still have asked for aces, just in case...
kaapo: 3 boards a round
kaapo: So this is the end of round 14
kaapo: *15
kaapo: Next should be leaders Koistinen - Nyberg vs Jukka Pesonen - Sakari Stubb
kaapo: The championships take place in Vaasa Western-Finland, at Vasa bridgeklubb's venue Bridge-Center
kaapo: Our operators for the weekend are Juho Granström and Pinja Pyykkönen
kaapo: We've got two sponsors kindly paying the operators' expenses. You can find their logos at the website: http://bridgefinland.com/sm/pari09/
kaapo: We should be soon back with round 16
kaapo: Jukka Pesonen (W) - Sakari Stubb (E) vs leaders Koistinen - Nyberg
kaapo: I believe NS are about to bid slam
kaapo: In !Ds you can pitch spades on clubs and make
kaapo: 7
kaapo: They will likely play in clubs or notrumps, however
kaapo: I'm not sure why North started with Stayman 2!C
kaapo: I guess it tells something that they are playing there and I'm not :)
kaapo: Well done
kaapo: Ah, I see, 3!H showed *exactly* 3!C
kaapo: So without 4!S, 4!H and 4!C, South must have 4!D
kaapo: 1!S is weak, and Koistinen's pass strange
kaapo: 2!H rather weak, too
kaapo: 4!S would be a good save against 4!H, just one off
kaapo: However, EW can make 5!H
kaapo: This is goind pretty fast, as usually in Kauko and Clas' table
kaapo: This is our first occurence of the Magic 1!D today
kaapo: Showing most 17+ HCP hands
kaapo: There are some comprehensive notes about MD at http://hem.bredband.net/btkons/carrot/Magic_3_3_01.htm
kaapo: Although that is not the same version as played by NS
kaapo: But if you read all of it (100s of pages), I'm sure you'll get a pretty good grasp of the system  :)
kaapo: Koistinen could now make the rest by dropping !HQ
kaapo: But he has a sure !H entry playing this way
kaapo: Of course he first took one high heart in case the Q is alone
kaapo: Change of roudnds
kaapo: Round 15 scores are there http://bridgefinland.com/sm/pari09/results.php
kaapo: It's pretty tough in the top now
kaapo: Koistinen - Nyberg still first, 57,9
kaapo: Matti Niemi - Jorma Valta have rised to the second place 56,0, followed by Kaj Sundsten - Pekka Uskali 55,5%
kaapo: Elsinen - Elsinen 4th with 55,4
kaapo: We should meet another pair from the host club, Vasa BK, next round, Fredrik Jåfs - Michael Airenne
kaapo: Playing against Koistinen - Nyberg
kaapo: Clas should know Fredrik well from junior years
kaapo: I believe Fredrik and Michael play some home-grown system
kaapo: I'd gladly take another person to commentate here, but unfortunately the BBO software has a limitation on the number of commentators
Walddk6: Sadly yes
Walddk6: Will be better tomorrow. I have asked Uday to mute everyone after today's play
Walddk6: Then we can start all over again
kaapo: Sounds a good idea, thanks Roland
kaapo: Perhaps Juho can make an occasional comment for us from the table
kaapo: 1!C is either 12-16 unbal or 15-17 balanced
kaapo: 2!H is weak
kaapo: But with great support and great controls, Koistinen has an easy time raising to four
kaapo: Everything is perfect here: !SK on, !S 3-3, !CA right
kaapo: Well, trumps didn't break
kaapo: So Michael Airenne is West, Fredrik Fåfs East, Kauko N and Clas S
kaapo: I don't really have an idea what exactly 1!C is
kaapo: All I kind of remember from EW's system is that they had very specific 1M openings, like promising exactly 5 cards or something similar
kaapo: Juho told me they had plans on playing strong pass, but that's not allowed in this tournament
kaapo: It is legal to play an HUM (highly unusual methods) system in Finland in some tournaments (teams with long matches at least)
Walddk6: Welcome to Joe Shair
santyclz: Hi folks.
kaapo: Hi Joe, glad to have some company :)
santyclz: Hi Kari.
kaapo: This is the Finnish pairs final, round 17 out of 35
kaapo: Juho does well to explain the Magic Diamond bids for us
kaapo: The system has a nice feature of similar bidding series occuring in several places
santyclz: Is that what it is?  I was wondering.  Seems to have reached the right spot, though.
kaapo: For instance opening 1!S is 8-11 4+!S over which 2NT is invite+ with 4+ support
kaapo: Here, 1!S is 12-16 4+!S and 2NT is again inv+ with 4+ support
kaapo: Sorry, here 2NT is GF
kaapo: But still very close to what it is over direct 1!S opening
kaapo: 3-board rounds, so this was the end of round 17
Walddk6: http://hem.bredband.net/btkons/carrot/Magic_3_3_01.htm
kaapo: Scores after R16 are here: http://bridgefinland.com/sm/pari09/results.php
kaapo: Elsinen - Elsinen have taken back the 2nd place
kaapo: Roland has very comprehensive notes on Magic Diamond for Joe
Walddk6: 1 million pages
kaapo: Perhaps you could learn them by heart during our short break?
santyclz: Can't think at the moment, I'm on the road (again) and the maids are vacuming (hoovering) my room now.
Walddk6: Are they pretty?
santyclz: On a scale of 1-10, about 2 and -1.
kaapo: Well, he's watching bridge from Finland, so they can't be *that* pretty, can they? :)
Walddk6: 1 is best?
santyclz: I wish.
Rodal F: Hi all co commentators and specs:) A visit from Norway.
santyclz: Re Frank.
Rodal F: Re  JOE:)
santyclz: Ahh, they're done.
kaapo: Hej, Rødal
kaapo: Short break
kaapo: Or the maids are done?
kaapo: I won't make any comments on that...
santyclz: Yes.
othered1: Hi, everybody!
kaapo: I needed to go to the Nordic Friendship League website in order to find the letter ø
santyclz: Hi Ed.
kaapo: Here's the web site for the BBO league organised by BBOFinland http://patana.biz/BBOnfl/index.php?lang=2
Rodal F: We are at round?
santyclz: øh.
kaapo: JEC will have a team in the league too :)
kaapo: R18 is about to start here
kaapo: Results after round 16 are at http://bridgefinland.com/sm/pari09/results.php
Rodal F: :)
kaapo: We should have Pasi Suominen - Jussi Pölkki from Tampere next round
kaapo: Playing against the leaders, Koistinen - Nyberg
Rodal F: So this is the resaults after round 17?     http://bridgefinland.com/sm/pari09/results/16.html
kaapo: Round 17 results are not there yet
Rodal F: Sorry seems as 16
Rodal F: Got controll now Kari:) Perkele I hate to have control
santyclz: If they would just post the round 18 results we could go out for dinner.
kaapo: I see we could easily switch to Finnish here :)
Rodal F: lol
kaapo: Play should resume any minute now
kaapo: Or any second, I hope :)
kaapo: Jussi Pölli W - Pasi Suominen E vs Koistinen - Nyberg
santyclz: Today anyway.
kaapo: Perhaps we'll soon enough get new cards as well
Rodal F: Make a sauna first. Then some licuide and after bridge
kaapo: Good idea, but Juho disagrees
kaapo: Pölli? I'm gonna get killed for my typing errors
Rodal F: Ws hand wourt a 15-17NT?
kaapo: Pölkki is better
santyclz: Saunas are tough on the computers.
othered1: I'd open west a weak NT
kaapo: 2!D shows one majors, and a worse hand than a direct 2M would
kaapo: *ono major
kaapo: or something
Rodal F: U often have honors. BUT how much are they wouth? W had a 14HP by his 15 in my w..
kaapo: It appears a trump lead would've been good here
santyclz: K&R gives w a 13.40   http://www.jeffgoldsmith.org/cgi-bin/knr.cgi
kaapo: Now South can get a spade ruff in hand
Rodal F: Then I was to nice to W by 0.6HP:)
kaapo: So at least it's a maximum weak NT?
Rodal F: Anyway it was pre empt. Hard for NS to find 4!H
kaapo: 2!D 8-11 either 6+!D or 5+!D4+!C, no 4M
kaapo: 2!H is a relay
Rodal F: At red a sporty 2!D at first hand
kaapo: Nyberg could also bid 2NT to show hearts, but I can't remember if they play it as forcing or not
kaapo: 2!S shows 4+!C
kaapo: And I suppose 2NT asks and 3NT is 2-25-4
othered1: doesn't seem very focused 
othered1: EW make 2!S.
Rodal F: On by Qxx!H at E. But seems the system is a bit hard builded up. For destructive variants insteed of WE find the best contract
kaapo: This would be a nice contract if North's major suits were reversed
Rodal F: From E now. If W have !D no prob
Rodal F: So !S to test first
Rodal F: Is it possible?
kaapo: Well, EW play 3rd/5th leads so !D7 could be from KJ7(5/3)
othered1: I have to leave.  Thanks everyone and bye.
Rodal F: Seems as a it will bea new sauna for me:) Will make it hot 2
kaapo: With all 5 diamonds he'd lead the lowest
kaapo: tx
kaapo: Strong magic 1!D
santyclz: But s won the !da and followed with the !dq at trick 1, seems an unlikely line with Qx.
kaapo: It does, Joe
Rodal F: I like all the exsplains. Well done vug operator:)
kaapo: Another 3-board round coming to an end
kaapo: New results after round 17 are at http://bridgefinland.com/sm/pari09/results.php
kaapo: Also new leaders!
kaapo: Well, not new
kaapo: The Elsinen couple has been on top for several rouds during the first half of the tournament
santyclz: 2 basic lines on this hand.  The line the declarer took, avoiding a lead through the !sk and Zia's line of leading to the !sk at trick 2.
kaapo: 23 out of 35 rounds will be played today
Rodal F: So tightning up at 1st and 3rd. Only 25p
kaapo: Leading to !SK does take lots of imagination, so clearly a Zia line :)
kaapo: So we might see Esa Väliaho - Markku Pekkinen here playing against the Elsinens next round
kaapo: Clas Nyberg and Kauko Koistinen are the anchor pair of our national team
kaapo: They played in the team which took bronze in the Nordics in Turku Finland this summer
kaapo: In the previous Nordics, Finland won gold, ahead of Norway and all
kaapo: KK and CN were in the team also that time
kaapo: How did the Norwegian ladies play, Rødal?
kaapo: Earlier today
Rodal F: The ladies did well.
santyclz: Somewhat mixed, we saw some very fine play and a few "a cow flew by" plays.
kaapo: That was some kind of an invitational competition, right?
Rodal F: But how much there invitated mate understood I don't know:)
kaapo: Ah, new player names ar up
kaapo: Antti Elsinen N - Tiina Elsinen S vs Esa Väliaho W - Markku Pekkinen E
kaapo: Tiina Elsinen was on the ladies team taking silver in the Nordics this year
Rodal F: Anyway the ladies invitationen turney now have there party. Poore boys. They will be killed:)
kaapo: Antti has also played for Finland, last time was in Warsaw with Osmo Kiema, if memory serves
Rodal F: Is a !S lead correct after this bid?
kaapo: Väliaho - Pekkinen are also highly experienced players
santyclz: Esa is not shy.
Rodal F: S whant to take some minortricks. GET away the trumph
kaapo: Väliaho is eeegeee on BBO, Pekkinen runnerup
kaapo: So their goal is silver
santyclz: A non-trump lead is a bit of a surprise.
Rodal F: As from the beginning:)
santyclz: I'd lead low rather than the ace.
Rodal F: IF S had AXX he would have leed a !C. Was the !C to good?
kaapo: she
kaapo: New results http://bridgefinland.com/sm/pari09/results.php
kaapo: Elsinen - Elsinen continue on top
Rodal F: So down to 6th by fighting for the silver?
santyclz: Well, 200 may not be too bad a score.
kaapo: 1NT played by North here?
kaapo: Or do you bid as West?
Rodal F: A spot by a !S lead from E
santyclz: At mps, yes.
santyclz: X rather.
Rodal F: I do 2
kaapo: Uupside-down carding is the way in Finland
Rodal F: !S 8 a lavental?
santyclz: Or 2!d if playing DONT in balancing.
Rodal F: Or should it have been !S10
Rodal F: Sr. !S 6
Rodal F: There the !S6 came as a bomerang. !D insteed of !H
kaapo: This seems a nice result for NS as EW should make some number of !S
Rodal F: Trick 7
kaapo: Antti Elsinen is a bidder
santyclz: Wow!
kaapo: But Pekkinen seems to be too :)
Rodal F: Comment not needed
Rodal F: Sr. 4!S was a good bid
santyclz: Unfortunate !sq.  If that value were elsewhere this could have good play.
kaapo: Some elimination and hope for Hx in !Hs
Rodal F: The last board for today?
kaapo: Careful with the spots, operator! :)
kaapo: Hmm, this is round 19
kaapo: And they'll play 23 rounds
santyclz: Vg in your timezone: http://online.bridgebase.com/vugraph/schedule.php Make it your home page!
kaapo: So we will have some more boards for you still
Rodal F: It's nice:)
kaapo: Elsinens stay at this table
Rodal F: So still to be Mr. .........? Nope
kaapo: And should play against Annu Laukkanen - Olli Rahi
kaapo: Hmm
kaapo: I seem to have mixed things up a bit
Rodal F: What I realy like is pairs setting press on opps and still having control by own biddings. The hardest thing at Bridge
Rodal F: A nice 13er at E
santyclz: Who will get the !s in first?
kaapo: So I guess we really have the two top pairs here now :)
Rodal F: Belive W
kaapo: East will open 1!C of course
Rodal F: And then S don't have for a X so W will bid 1!S and we are on
santyclz: And s?  At mps a 1!s o/c seems possible.
kaapo: Antti Elsinen (N) - Tiina Elsinen (S) vs Clas Nyberg (W) - Kauko Koistinen (E)
kaapo: If South passes, West will bid 1!D, either 0-7 or 12+
santyclz: Takes up the 1 level and gives lead pref.
Rodal F: I would never have done it at vul. I have my pard and we bough can balance
kaapo: North would double 1!D, east bid 1!H and maybe now South has her chance to bid 1!S?
Rodal F: Graded up for 16+?
kaapo: 1!H here is 12-16, 4+!H, may have longer minor
Rodal F: Thx Kari
kaapo: 1!S is natural F1, could be 0-7 or 12+
Rodal F: E hitted his best bid??
kaapo: 1NT is usually either 5!H and 4-card minor or 1!S444; with canapé East would bid 2m
kaapo: A little odd yes that Kauko chose to bid his !D "suit" instead of clubs
Rodal F: May we say 8 or will something happend?
kaapo: New results: http://bridgefinland.com/sm/pari09/results.php
kaapo: Koistinen - Nyberg have dropped to the 3rd place
kaapo: Kari Noponen - Mikko Toivonen are now second. We saw them play against Koistinen - Nyberg early today, and they didn't really shine then. Glad they've gotten their game in shape ...
kaapo: now
Rodal F: A spot to come
kaapo: This board should introduce one of Magic Diamond's bidding modules
santyclz: Cashing 3 rounds of !cs and exiting with a !h might have produced something, but it seems unlikely.
kaapo: 1!C is again 12-16 unbal or 15-17 bal
kaapo: 1NT 9-11 balanced
kaapo: And now the NT system is on
kaapo: So West bids Stayman
kaapo: And is now inviting with 5!S
Rodal F: So u now know that W have 5!S and 4!H?
santyclz: Stayman or anti-stayman?  Would e bid a major he has or one he doesn't?
kaapo: Probably 5!S is enough. I suppose he'd bid this way with holding just spades
kaapo: Regular Stayman in that regard, Joe
kaapo: Of course it might make sense to swap the meanings in this sequence
kaapo: Making the stronger hand delcarer more often
kaapo: But it eases the memory load to have similar bidding sequences in many places
Rodal F: So easy to have better control by bidding natural or using polich !C ot pressision !C
santyclz: True, but this is one that I think is worth the extra effort and in some systems at least occurs on more than 1 sequence.
kaapo: Using 2!S by opener to show 4!H has the slight drawback of disabling the use of (...) - 1NT - 2!C - 2!H - 2!S as invite with 5!S
kaapo: However, with that hand you could just bid 2!S over 1NT...
kaapo: If you further changed the system
santyclz: Yes.  Like all conventions/treatments there are +s and -s, good hands for it and bad hands for it.
santyclz: If there were a perfect system, bridge would no longer be fun.
Rodal F: I am might a bit hard. LOOK at the better nations and there systems. WHY don't they use this variants?
kaapo: Double, 1!S or pass by East over 1!C?
kaapo: 1!s looks quite nice
santyclz: Not pass.  X or 1!s depends on with whom I'm playing.
Rodal F: Why not a RD from W as: Pard I have 3!S and will fight
Rodal F: Even if E had 5
santyclz: 2!s has preemptive value and xx may be assigned a different meaning.
Rodal F: Time to give away a !S trick and later a !D before !S are played?
kaapo: I wonder if they play transfers here too. Rdbl would then be 9-11 bal with 2!S, 1NT long clubs usually 0-7, 2!C !Ds, 2!D !Hs and 2!H 9-11 bal with 3!S
kaapo: (Pass in first seat denies 8 HCPs in an unbalanced hand)
santyclz: Culbertson anyone?
kaapo: This is 2009
Rodal F: Ok that u explain, but the system is to bad:)
Rodal F: I take Culebertson
kaapo: Change of rounds again. Tiina and Antti continue here but I won't make a guess who they'll play next round
Rodal F: Put the hands at NS up and down and it still follow the LAW
Rodal F: Larry the law
santyclz: Something for you to read during long breaks:  http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/burn_law.htm
kaapo: Elsinen - Elsinen continue as NS vs Asko Riutta (E) - Olev Lillipuu (W)
kaapo: EW play strong club
vugraphzzv: Pelaavat kakstieristiä 
kaapo: Oh I've been told 1!C is 2-way in fact
Rodal F: The 1!H bid will cost here. Auto !D cut at N
kaapo: So it could also be minimum balnced
kaapo: So much for Culbertson :)
kaapo: East has promised a !H stopper but now he appers to be asking for one
Rodal F: Lucky no cover
santyclz: 1nt likely shows range and shape with no stopper connotations.
kaapo: Could be
Rodal F: !D2 was free at first play
Rodal F: Back to A and....
Rodal F: N told the !C to?
Rodal F: Counted up now
Rodal F: :)
santyclz: Oh my!
Rodal F: YYYYYYYYYYY:)
kaapo: Perhaps the vugraph factor stuck again
Rodal F: And W don't have for a fight? Must be there system
vugraphzzv: here Riutta bid 2!d witch was accepted
kaapo: Of course, they've been playing for almost 10 hours now, with only short breaks
kaapo: Wow, they're making Pinja's work tough
kaapo: But she won't be irritated :)
Rodal F: B-55 seems to be the best club in Suomi:) http://bridgefinland.com/sm/pari09/results/20.html
kaapo: By far the largest one at least
santyclz: W is playing tired bridge.
Rodal F: My last for them is: Look at the world and system used there
kaapo: Here's a book example of a takeout double
kaapo: We've seen some stranger examples today
santyclz: But we wouldn't have the systems played there today if people didn't experiment.
kaapo: 2NT looks like a club raise
kaapo: I believe this NS play 4-card majors
kaapo: End of round again
kaapo: This seemed to be a very good one for the leaders
santyclz: Time to learn about the law:  http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/burn_law.htm
santyclz: Back shortly, need to make an ice run.
kaapo: We might see Markku Lähteenoja - Mirja Mäntylä here next, unless I'm mistaken again. They played against KK-CN early today on vugraph
Rodal F: That cold in ur aeria?:) Time for a ice bath
kaapo: "Ice run" sounds crazy
kaapo: Well, not for a Finn
kaapo: We go to hot sauna and then run into a hole in the ice
Rodal F: Use to have mine by the winter. The problem is to use the pincet.
kaapo: I doubt that's what Joe is about to do; he sounded quite sober
Rodal F: Pincet? To find something
Rodal F: Spec asked:(
kaapo: I got it right for once, which means we'll see another 2-way club pair here
Rodal F: :)
kaapo: Mirja Mäntylä (N, a lady), Markku Lähteenoja (S) vs leaders Antti (E) and Tiina (W, a lady) Elsinen
kaapo: This 1!C should be either 11-13 balanced or any 17+ hand
Rodal F: Still a non natural sustem
Rodal F: system
kaapo: I believe we've had one or two rounds of all natural systems here today :)
Rodal F: If 1!D ar S an obvious X neg
Rodal F: Not so clear now
kaapo: Double was for takeout and Markku did take it out
Rodal F: And payment came
kaapo: But I thought he was expected to take it out to 1NT with 11-13 balanced
kaapo: Where's Joe's link?
kaapo: Time to learn about the law:  http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/burn_law.htm
Rodal F: SYSTEM i have been wandering abough for ure best players. It is to bad. Sorry
santyclz: Aha!  Back just in time to witness a LOTT violation!
Rodal F: OR USING THE SYSTEM. Could bee
kaapo: For your ice only, Joe
santyclz: (That's Law of Total Trump if you haven't read the link yet.)
santyclz: A short version is:  when declaring it's usually better to have more trump than the defenders.
santyclz: groan
Rodal F: May we stright see 4-5 !H from N?
kaapo: I'm quite confident we will
kaapo: Evetually
kaapo: +n
kaapo: or not
kaapo: I suppose this is supposed to be Namyats, but the usual requirement is to have something on the side, too
Rodal F: Agree there Kari
Rodal F: Waited a 4 or 5 !H from N
kaapo: Several kibbers advise me that 8c semisolid is ok for some
santyclz: The !d9 is a happy card.
kaapo: !DQ even more so...
Rodal F: Ant reason for W to make one more bid? No
Rodal F: Any
Rodal F: Getting up there c/c
kaapo: Results after R21: http://bridgefinland.com/sm/pari09/results.php
Rodal F: wd
santyclz: That shift didn't exactly terrify declarer.
Rodal F: But best defece I belive
kaapo: One more round after this today
kaapo: So Kaj Sundsten - Pekka Uskali should make their second appearance on vugraph today, playing against the leaders
Rodal F: One person have reacted by my way to be/ telling system to use. I apriciate that. My words have been by the best meaning for making better bridge. Else we, commentators don't need ...
Rodal F: to be here.
santyclz: I don't know if that was the right line as 2nt was on for n-s.  I think trying to make 3 would have been better.
kaapo: Kaj Sundsten (N) - Pekka Uskali (S) vs Antti and "Tintti"
kaapo: Last three boards of the day about to come
Rodal F: Some fight to come here
kaapo: The traditional hearts vs spades fight
kaapo: Would you believe me if I told that NS play a natural system?
Rodal F: And level 3 as max for bough but where will it stop?
kaapo: Well, they don't, they have strong !C with 4-card majors
Rodal F: Belive it will become a normal spot
kaapo: Perhaps some Easts would find a double?
santyclz: I like 4 card majors at mps.  It's more difficult to play that way but the scoring rewards it.
Rodal F: Can be. But ricky
santyclz: Only *very* hungry e's!  No tricks, no surprises for declarer.
kaapo: A kib suggests that Pekka should've ruffed with the 7
Rodal F: Should have putted u in for BIN standard then Joe:) Based on 4 card bidding
kaapo: When he then entered the dummy in !Cs...
kaapo: He could run !SJ and hope for both honours to crash
kaapo: Rubbish bin standard, Frank? :)
Rodal F: Played it before. Playing 2/1 no. At 1st div by 3counties
santyclz: Yes, all the top players play standard.  Like Meckwell.
kaapo: 3!C might be weak jump shift. They're pretty common in Finland
santyclz: The weak jump shift may have sold the !hk.
Rodal F: It's comming more and more, but other system are VERY GOOD by there place. Take Grøtheim - Tundal and there Viking Club system. By team it's splended. By match so and so
Rodal F: So let's say: They are world Champions at team, but they play an other variant at match
kaapo: Well... East would have quite a lot with !CKQ(J) and !HK as Joe mentioned
santyclz: Particularly since you want him to have a !s honor too.
Rodal F: Can this be a gift for a pay?
Rodal F: Not now
kaapo: As for the systems, it's quite interesting that in general the Norwegian top pairs play natural (with Viking the exception), whilst almost all of Sweden't elite prefer strong or ...
kaapo: 2-way club
Rodal F: Any for 4!S?
santyclz: Looks like an ogust variant.
Rodal F: I hoped for it
kaapo: 2NT could be the Ogust relay, and 3!C showing minimum with bad suit
Rodal F: But a notmal bid at the end anyway
kaapo: Last board of today
kaapo: Thanks a lot for our hard working operators, Juho Granström and Pinja Pyykkönen!
kaapo: Thanks also for the commentators, Frank Rødal, Joe Shair, Gerben Dirksen, Markku M Mäkelä, and for Roland Wald for helping out
kaapo: Also thanks for our sponsors of the BBO broadcasts
santyclz: Thanks all, see you soon.
kaapo: Their logos are on our web site http://bridgefinland.com/sm/pari09/results.php
kaapo: Thanks BBO, Vasa BK and SBL
kaapo: + thanks kibs!
kaapo: See you tomorrow
Rodal F: Thx a lot to Kari - specs and vug opp
kaapo: Happy Halloween!
Rodal F: + all from BBO anf the federation in Finland